painted film sticking in projector

[dharmabum1949]

oops i didnt see this post when i came back to check, its actually here twice. As soon as im done writing this im going to double check that my sprocket holes are clean but im fairly positive they are. I suppose i wouldnt describe the film as "dry" it seems like no matter what i do it retains a goopy texture that easily lifts off the surface and thus gets stuck in the projector. Ive heard that nail polish works well, s there a specific kind that you use? Are there different kinds of bases etc that would affect that transparency of the paint? If I can figure out a methodology for making these vitrail films i highly suggest trying a process similar to the one im doing, the results are wonderful, the colors are rich and vibrant (which makes sense, vitrail is marketed as a transparent color paint for glass) and the reactions between the vitrail and alcohal make for some very interesting organic movement

[dharmabum1949]

hey guys, I wrote a few weeks back asking for advice on film painting. Ive made some great stuff with a glass paint called vitrail and rubbing alcohal, Ive been coating the paint with the alcohal and dropping the vitrail onto the surface with an eye dropper and then adding on more alcohal as a means of breaking up the solid potions of paint into fantastic organic shapes. My problem is that when i project them the film gets about 3-4 frames in and then sticks because of the gooey paint, ive tryed drying them for days, attacking them with hair dryers, nothing works. Im thinking that my best bet is to spray some sort of glossy finish on the film in order to cover the sticky paint. Does anyone have any suggestions? I know this is a strange question but if any one has an idea id love to her it, thanks

[karl hungus]

I see you are the next Stan Brackhage. It seems odd to me it would stick because it was sticky, are you sure you aren't covering the sprocket holes at all? I don't understand how it can be dry and sticky at the same time. Also, for anyone else, nailpolish works great on super 8 films and gives a real nice color on clear film.
Good luck.

karl hungus

[dharmabum1949]

well i very carefuly cleaned the sprocket holes with a needle i still cant get them to project. I also just tryed running it through a bentley bx-11 projector,one of those funny battery 80s operated projectors that has a little television like screen that it projects onto the back of. I cant even get it to thread through the mechanism in order to start projecting so im sure its the stickyness and not the sprocket holes, im going to start experimenting with enamels and see if i cant find something that will create a slick enough coating

[Paul L.]

Is your paint making the film stiff? Maybe you should look into what Stan Brakhage used to paint his films.